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| sapphiro15 |
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Just finished it last night!
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| louise |
| Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 3:07 pm |
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| sapphiro15 |
| Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 8:46 pm |
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i can't believe how many surprises she threw into that book!
i mean... OMG! |
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| ShushKebab |
| Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 4:09 pm |
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| Meh, didn't like the ending. But like the Battle of Hogwarts *zomg! spoilers!* |
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| Anacrusis |
| Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 8:55 pm |
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I never REALLY liked that series. I mean, it was very entertaining, but the writing is quite poor. The only reason the books are so popular is because it was pretty much the first book of its type: a fantasy book for children.
Still, an entertaining read and I was looking forward to it enough to run away with my hands over my ears whenever I heared people talking about it.  |
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| Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 9:00 pm |
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| Anacrusis |
| Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 10:10 am |
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| I thought the writing wasn't good enough to get a really good emotional response from me. Sometimes when I read books the writing is so good that the sad parts almost make me cry, but I didn't really get that from HP... |
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| louise |
| Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 1:50 pm |
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Anacrusis wrote: I thought the writing wasn't good enough to get a really good emotional response from me. Sometimes when I read books the writing is so good that the sad parts almost make me cry, but I didn't really get that from HP...
Probably JK Rowling's actually trying to avoid children crying when reading HP.. ^^..
one of my friends said that the reason she makes many main people died in the end cuz to avoid 'irresponsible' people/fans continue the story and publishing it on the net then claiming that it's written by JK Rowling herself. (same thing happened with Doraemon apparently). Something like tidying up 'loose ends' maybe.. |
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| ShushKebab |
| Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 3:49 pm |
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| And the death of a certain house elf, especially, hit me hard the most. |
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| Anacrusis |
| Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 4:30 pm |
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louise wrote: one of my friends said that the reason she makes many main people died in the end cuz to avoid 'irresponsible' people/fans continue the story and publishing it on the net then claiming that it's written by JK Rowling herself. (same thing happened with Doraemon apparently). Something like tidying up 'loose ends' maybe..
Yes, she did say that in an interview. She said that there was going to be no loose ends at the end of the book.
I think it would have been better if Harry had died for good, and in the epilougue ron, hermione and ginny were remembering him. THat would have been a nice closing point. Especially if it were written well.
(that colour so it's hard to see - people don't see it if they don't want to.) |
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| Vonbon |
| Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 4:46 pm |
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| louise |
| Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 8:38 pm |
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| Minty |
| Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 8:55 pm |
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If such a thing would have happened, the hordes of fanchildren would find one J.K. Rowling's home and stampede over it in the middle of the night.
Heard that a lass apparently killed herself over 'fake spoilers' where Harry and company all die horribly. Not sure if that was true though >.> |
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| Night_Music |
| Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 6:57 am |
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Anacrusis wrote: The only reason the books are so popular is because it was pretty much the first book of its type: a fantasy book for children.
Not really - there are many fantasy books for children that were written before harry potter. Look at the all of the traditional fairy tales - those go back hundreds of years ago. And then you've got books like The Hobbit, The Magical Faraway Tree...the list goes on and on. Even Emily Rodda's Rowan of Rin series was released four years before harry hit the shelves. |
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| Patryn |
| Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 9:27 am |
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| hahaha. Rowan of Rin... I remember those books. xD Read a few of them in Primary School. |
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| Anacrusis |
| Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 12:39 pm |
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Night_Music wrote: Anacrusis wrote: The only reason the books are so popular is because it was pretty much the first book of its type: a fantasy book for children.
Not really - there are many fantasy books for children that were written before harry potter. Look at the all of the traditional fairy tales - those go back hundreds of years ago. And then you've got books like The Hobbit, The Magical Faraway Tree...the list goes on and on. Even Emily Rodda's Rowan of Rin series was released four years before harry hit the shelves.
True...but perhaps I phrased myself poorly.
Harry Potter was the first fantasy book for children that had elements of reality and tried hard to connect with children.
If there were others before HP, then they weren't marketed well enough to get any serious publicity.
That isn't to say the books aren't good though, there are just heaps of BETTER books out there. |
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| sniper_m4a1 |
| Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 3:53 pm |
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| OMG HARRY POTTER!!! haha my friends a like huge hp fan :p she got me into it.... i finishd reading the last book in 2 days haha i like hate reading books, i can't believe i finishd it in the first 2 days XD o well i HATED THE EPILOGUE but overall the idea was good |
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| Tempest Kiro |
| Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 5:45 pm |
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Minty wrote: If such a thing would have happened, the hordes of fanchildren would find one J.K. Rowling's home and stampede over it in the middle of the night.
Heard that a lass apparently killed herself over 'fake spoilers' where Harry and company all die horribly. Not sure if that was true though >.>
Wow... now that's devotion.... I tip my hat off to that girl.... |
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| louise |
| Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 6:53 pm |
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| Tempest Kiro |
| Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 7:35 pm |
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I have been upstaged....
*sulks in a corner* |
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| Night_Music |
| Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 10:54 am |
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Anacrusis wrote:
Harry Potter was the first fantasy book for children that had elements of reality and tried hard to connect with children.
If there were others before HP, then they weren't marketed well enough to get any serious publicity.
That isn't to say the books aren't good though, there are just heaps of BETTER books out there.
To answer your first statement:
Enid Blyton was one of the most popular children's fantasy writers from the 50s. The children in the books who all had dull lives at present day would somehow, through certain events (can't remember,been years since I've read the books) end up at the magical faraway tree and have all of these new adventures in alternate worlds found at the top of the tree with a host of magical folk.
As these books were post ww2, the world was in the process of putting itself back together.
The same could be said for the Lion the Witch and the Wardrobe. It was written during WW2 and it was based on the three children who were sent from their house in London to stay with C. S Lewis, who lived in the country and had a far less chance of being hit by bombs. Again it was about these children who lived boring lives and suddenly discover this alternate fantasy world in the back of a cupboard. The books that Blyton and Lewis wrote really tried harder than any other books I know to connect with children and re ignight their imaginations and sense of fun. It's what happens when these two essential elements of being young had been violently taken by a world full of fear and bloodshed.
There are also many more examples - Bednob and Broomstick also just came to mind.
Your second statement:
These two books I've listed obviously haven't sold nearly as many as Harry Potter, but it doesn't mean to say that they weren't marketed well enough. During the peak of their time, 50s-70s, these books very well known and read widely. You would be hard pressed to find a child in the western world who hadn't heard of Blyton or Lewis during this time. Even my mother who lived on a poor, isolated farm during the 60s and 70s had read these books.
Books at this time weren't as mass produced as they are today - people back then valued the library much more than they do today and to have more than one of the same book in a house because of the kids not wanting to share was an absurd idea.
So I guess my point here is that they were marketed well enough to get serious publicity because even in a time were there was no internet, the tv was new and expensive, colour advertising was too expensive etc, they still still sold in big numbers. Just for fun, go into any bookstore today and you'll still see these books on the shelf selling and being re printed. Or better yet, go into a video store and see the amount of telemovie remakes and films related to the books listed above.
They haven't sold as much as Harry, but then again, the only book that has sold more than Harry is the bible (and we wont go there).
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I'm not going to argue with you there - there are plenty of books better than Harry. And everyone has a different opinion and different tastes. I personally believe that Harry is amongst the best children's fantasy books out there but that's just me.
My theory on why they're so popular is because they've revamped the winning formula that Lewis and Blyton used. Rowling would have grown up with these stories and you can see that shes derived a lot of style from Blyton. The books that Lewis and Blyton wrote, while still wonderful in there stories, are quite outdated by today's society and don't relate very well to this generation of kids. Rowling has taken the same sort of idea really, an ordinary child from present day without an interesting childhood who discovers that there is more to this world than meets the eye and ends up exploring an alternate earth, while finding him/herself.
Ok, I've blabbed on long enough. Please don't take this as a personal attack, it was mearly a correction on storybook history (I work in a bookstore...) I need to stop procrastinating from my work. I've written more here than I've written in my blasted music history essay.
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I loved the Deathly Hallows!!!!! Fantastic ending to a fantastic series! |
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| Hombre |
| Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 2:12 pm |
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sorry ppl but harry potter is dead KIA
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| louise |
| Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 9:05 pm |
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| Yura Tanaka |
| Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 10:41 pm |
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| haaha...HARRY POTTER...YES... i haven't read the book yet even though it's been out for ages...actually...talking about Harry Potter, did all of u here hear about the publisher tat took pictures of every page in the book n post it on the internet??? |
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| louise |
| Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 11:25 pm |
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