Lets talk about science - Black Hole

[J-Hisaishi]

Do you believe black hole exist?
What is a black hole?
When we do physics in high school we all know nothing is faster than light, imagine you throw a ball vertically up in air. On earth gravity will trying to pull the ball back and thus velocity of the ball decreases, imagine gravity increases and you need to throw harder and harder so the ball can ESCAPE from gravity, eventually when get to the point where the ball need to faster than light speed(escape velocity) and gravity is close to infinite, Black hole appear, in other words, nothing can escape from black hole since its gravitation is infinite not even light can escape. Scientist believe( include me) time will pause inside black hole, whats beyond it? we're not sure. Some black hole is as big as our solar system. Do you believe time travel and black hole are related?

[Concinnity]

doesn't time just slow down?

altho, thikn about life.....

if light has a delay, even a slight delay, then wouldn't everything we see delay further, it'd just keep building up.......??

[Guest]

haha black holes

they've alwasy been a fantasy to me

as in, what lies ahead once you enter one. well scientifically its been said yeh nothing happens, you're just a goner.

but how cool would it be if it was a whole new world on the otherside...

[J-Hisaishi]

this is only happen inside black hole, if light delay inside black hole (eventualy when gravity gets bigger light can not escape out from black hole) so is time, you are right, but infinite gravity does not go beyond black hole, its only happen inside, I think inside black hole is another dimension compare to out current dimension.

Imagine a ball travel at speed of light, since black hole has infinite gravity, it pulls the ball back with same speed as light (or mabe greater). Remember nothing is faster than light, thus time pauses.

[Concinnity]

hmmmm, light lagging? kinda sounds like ym 56k...

[Santa]

IF time travel were possible, the bill gates found a way to do it. Its just logic that if you found a way to travel back in time, t he first thing you would do is make yourself rich and then to become a knight. Bill Gates has found a way to travel through time.

Thinking about black holes is so depressing and weighs so heavily on the brain. Go outside :p

[CCJc]

Good topic, but someone really needs to graduate ASAP and away from the all the researches and text books, IT CAN DISTROY YOUR LIFE...

btw, black holes are just a centralised condensation of matter that just grows as atoms-> particles cluster together. Forming a large body of mass

Of course gravity just keeps increasing at a steady speed, making its strength ever growing, hence infinity =P

There is no other world out there, sorry Kouri =P But you'll be squashed into tiny particles that things wont ever see the life of day again =(

And about slowing light down, that "may" be true, although it wont ever affect you, and cant be harnessed universally. Time deviates around different places that havent been properly studied since our own environments are limited =]

Btw, you cant turn back time, thats just not possible, it shouldnt be anyway, things are always moving, whether you move them backwards or towards, doesn't necessarily mean you're turning back the hands of time, you're just changing its vector direction.
By changing time to go backwards, it would scientifically mean you're taking energy and reversing how it behaves, and its not humanly explainable at this stage


so boys and girls, imagine all you want XD

[Concinnity]

and of course, the thing that terminates all posibility of going back in time...

the device u'd be using wudn't have been invented back then.....

[transistor]

is time travel in the first plave anyway? have you guys heard about the "mad scientist" contradiction? and if you think about it how can be somewhere in 1700s when u r born in 1900s? well if you consider the possibilty of parallel world then it might be the case

hhmm i think i got a bit too complicated and depressed, time to go out :p

[kkfc01]

let just forget about getting "squashed into tiny particles"

when u travel on (or is it IN?) a blackhole, and u look outside
time should appear to move slower
but time does NOT go back, just slow~~~~~~~er

but once u are at the centre of the spirial, well.........i've no idea
all i can say is u are no longer moving anywhere at that point

[Concinnity]

well i suppose if it slows down... then everything around u, outside the black hole would be a lot 'faster', or having time travelling normally....?

[CCJc]

[Concinnity]

well, i think i was babbling on into my own world, so relativity doesn't explain my point.....

but, relativity, would be like, 2 cars speeeding down a highway and seeing what speeds they travel at, depending on which car ur traveling at..... hmm... or that might be..... disposomething...

[CCJc]

[MachV]

I've always believed in the scientific theories of black holes.
One of my favourite theories is:
A black hole does indeed pull everything into itself and absorbs is, including light and time. then if tow object where in space and one was being pulled into a black hole while the other stay stationary watching the first obeject. From the perspective of the second object, the first object would appear to slow down in aceleration the closer it got to the black holes epi-center, and never appear to actually enter the black hole, even after the first obeject had long pasted the event horizon.


Which brings me to my favourite black hole theory of all time:

Given the law of cause and effect: ie every action has an oppoiste reaction. And given the theory of a black hole absorbs everything including time and light. The somewhere out ther in the vastness of the multi-verse. There has to be an opposite. Ie a "white hole" that spews out both time and light. So esentially a black hole may be acting as a one entrance to a worm hole. It could aslo be the background for a time travel theories.

Even though according to theoretical science disproves the theory of white holes, (well it doesn't disprove it, it jsut proves the ther should be any in existance). I still like this idea of White Holes and there is alot that science still needs to learn and discover.

[MachV]

[kkfc01]

[Concinnity]

as requested by ccjc, i'm not posting on this thread have a good time making breakthroughs!

[mysterious_x]