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PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2005 8:26 pm    Post subject: Professional Music/Intru Softwares Reply with quote

I've seen these softwares before, my cousin actually used it when he mixed music together

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Music manipulation as a wave file recorded straight from audio stream isnot easy to manipulate
By that I mean, changing its pitch sound

You'll pretty much have two ways of getting the correct pitches,
1. get someone more experienced than you to tell the difference
or
2. get the computer to generate an accurate pitch of any particular "sound" you would like to hear

I could be totally wrong, but check them out, researching about this is for your to explore =]

Mostly this is generated through using a MIDI, you think of it as a file thats just has tunes stored, but with no actual waves, hence the small size. Your computer just simply runs the file through a synethiser playing whatever tones was stored

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here are some of the softwares i quickly remembered and listed their features referenced from websites

here they are

    Ableton Live 5.0

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Time and pitch manipulation

- real-time time-stretching to play any audio file in sync with the project tempo, even if original tempo fluctuates
- real-time pitch shifting for the individual notes in a sample
- real-time groove and swing manipulations for MIDI and audio
- tempo automation via continuous breakpoint envelopes
- frequency-domain warping optimized for composite signals such as mixed-down music
- clip transport for looping, editing and shuffling any clip on the fly


    Cakewalk


    IK Multimedia Studio Bundle Plug-ins


The above softwares are professional and i dont think they'll be free, there's plenty of other programs around that are free, but that just requires more search.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2005 10:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the suggestions CCJc
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 13, 2005 8:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does anyone have any suggestions for Notepad software?

Like I know there's FinaleNotepad 2005 etc, but my mother board is stuffed and so my midi device doesn't work. Anyoen got a program where the preview or sound is actually, wav sound or somethingg?

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 13, 2005 10:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

notepad software? O_o
you dont mean the microsoft text notepad do you?

if you want to analyze any particular sound waves, use nero wave editor

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 8:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hmmmm. nono, like finale........
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 2:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you have a mac and a keyboard... GarageBand is pretty good... like say if you need to compose a song for a video assignment it will do you good.

I composed a song in a night. Go me! ^_^ just for fun..... It'll be on my website.. (once I fix it up which will be... oh another year or so... lol.)

At uni we use ProTools. It has a lot of errors though... and most of it is plug-in related errors... it also needs an Mbox which is about another $1000... so only think about it if you're uber serious about sound... I'm not. kwahaha.....

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 6:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

altho, hu has macs these days?? Wink Razz

altho, the notebooks r ok.....

damn ipods.....

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 9:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ohoh, ull be really surprised Smile some lecturers in my uni uses mac because it's more secure in some ways, less virus and worms to worry about. Plus it just looks cool *drolls*
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 9:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

it's cus of the software......
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 6:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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ohoh, ull be really surprised Smile some lecturers in my uni uses mac because it's more secure in some ways, less virus and worms to worry about. Plus it just looks cool *drolls*


They fully utilise the institution pricings where as we cant Wink as students

software? nahh its purely design of the interface, just a little off the topic, the MS Vista, aka Longhorn is close to macOS's window dialogue boxes

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 8:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

that has nothing to do with its' security....
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 23, 2006 6:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You missed a few. Here are the most popular of their types:

DAWs/Softstudios/Sequencers
Ableton Live
ACID
Cakewalk SONAR
Cubase
FL Studio
GarageBand
Logic
Reason

Audio Editing
CoolEdit
SoundForge
WaveLab

Notation
Finale
NoteWorthy Composer
Sibelius

Finale and Sibelius are the two main companies that compete by ripping each other to shreds in order to dominate in market share. Hal Leonard supposedly uses Finale (which was also used to score Harry Potter And The Prisoner Of Azkaban, among many other notable films).

Pro Tools and GigaStudio are also widely used by professionals. The up side of a Mac is Logic, as GarageBand isn't a professional program, to my knowledge..

Anvil Studio is a free piano-orientated sequencer/composer that lacks many features. However, it's popular for its...lack of cost. Finale Notepad contains an 8-stave limit, but is far better for notation purposes. However, it does not support MIDI exporting, which renders it almost useless, in my opinion.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 23, 2006 6:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

FL Studio 6.0 came out recently. I don't know how it compares with some of the other programs, such as Finale, but it's easy to use, has cool effects, and the sound quality has improved greatly. Just make sure you download some good soundfonts.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 23, 2006 7:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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FL Studio 6.0 came out recently. I don't know how it compares with some of the other programs, such as Finale, but it's easy to use, has cool effects, and the sound quality has improved greatly. Just make sure you download some good soundfonts.


FL Studio and Finale are two very different programs. Thus, it's inaccurate to compare them directly.

Finale is a professional-standard notation program that may be used in conjunction with GPO in order to create orchestral MP3s. However, its main base is definitely in creating shiny, impressive sheet music, not audio production.

On the other hand, FL Studio is very much centred around MIDI-MP3 music production, and doesn't focus on proper (dare I say classical?) notation, seeing as it centres on an excellent piano roll. The SONAR one pales in comparison, in my opinion. It's primarily used to produce electronic music, although it's far more versatile than, say, Reason, and isn't limited to only that genre.

Both allow exporting as MIDIs, and Finale does support .WAV output. I still prefer the MIDI sounds over the "realistic" ones, however.

Guitar Pro RSE > Finale SmartMusic SoftSynth

In addition, F = ma. I know you know. I know you know I know. Now we both know.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 23, 2006 7:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice info there QWERTYUIOPASDFGHJKLZXCVBN. I personally recommend Finale and Sibelius for Notation, and for mixing I'm currently using Fruity Loops and Cubase for making loops and then importing them into Acid DJ, even though I can do all that in either Fruity Loops, but I just find it better this way.

(No, I didn't buy all those programs. Finale and Sibelius belongs to my music teacher coz he's rich and I've got cracked Fruity Loops and Acid DJ. And yes, now that you know, I'll just wait for someone to sue me.)
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 23, 2006 8:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pixelwarrior wrote:
Nice info there QWERTYUIOPASDFGHJKLZXCVBN. I personally recommend Finale and Sibelius for Notation, and for mixing I'm currently using Fruity Loops and Cubase for making loops and then importing them into Acid DJ, even though I can do all that in either Fruity Loops, but I just find it better this way.


That's a great set-up you have there. By the sounds of it, you produce electronic music - am I right? Actually wait, you mentioned notation. Bah, I'll stop guessing now.

Just a personal question here, but do you use a MIDI keyboard or mouse notes in via the piano roll? If you happen to own a Roland Fantom, prepare to [see signature]. How wealthy and lucky you would be.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 23, 2006 10:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hahaha! I'm not that rich! Most of the gear I use is at school, some Roland midi keyboard, old though... But yeah, mix some songs for fun a while back. Was for school too, assessment tasks, that's where the notation comes in... It was weird how I had to teach the teacher how to use Sibelius, and was forced to submit an electronic piece as notation... Damn was that hell!
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 23, 2006 11:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Hahaha! I'm not that rich! Most of the gear I use is at school, some Roland midi keyboard, old though... But yeah, mix some songs for fun a while back. Was for school too, assessment tasks, that's where the notation comes in... It was weird how I had to teach the teacher how to use Sibelius, and was forced to submit an electronic piece as notation... Damn was that hell!


Ouch, that would have been a painful task. I suppose one could argue that electronic instruments wouldn't require quite as refined notation, however.

I have a composition assessment due in several weeks, and even though I (for some reason I don't really know) finished writing the actual piece the day it was assigned, adding in randomly "l33t-looking" techniques in Finale is very, very time-consuming. Why is notating pizzicato so inconvenient?

Luckily I'm not using Sibelius (although I am supposed to - shh, don't tell!), since I can't even insert rests properly in that program.

I don't suppose that was for your HSC, Pixelwarrior? Roffle at your having to instruct your own teacher.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 23, 2006 11:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nah not HSC LOL!!! I'd be damned if it was!
Sibelius and Finale are quite easy to use believe it or not! Once you get the hang of the shortcut keys that is. With Sibelius, you can actually input the notes in via your normal keyboard. Eg. G would be 'middle C', H would be 'A', J would be 'B' etc. or something like that and you have your sharps and flats in between Eg. Y -> G#, U -> A# etc. And a bunch of other keys to set the duration, rests and so on. But if I remember correctly, Finale wasn't as user friendly...
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Nah not HSC LOL!!! I'd be damned if it was!
Sibelius and Finale are quite easy to use believe it or not! Once you get the hang of the shortcut keys that is. With Sibelius, you can actually input the notes in via your normal keyboard. Eg. G would be 'middle C', H would be 'A', J would be 'B' etc. or something like that and you have your sharps and flats in between Eg. Y -> G#, U -> A# etc. And a bunch of other keys to set the duration, rests and so on. But if I remember correctly, Finale wasn't as user friendly...


I'm quite the opposite, as I find Finale's controls to be far more intuitive than Sibelius's.

With the electronica notation, it sounds like you put a lot of effort into a task that wasn't all that critical. Razz

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 2:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Teachers propaganda i blame... How damn important did they make the school certificate sound? And how much of a blind fool was I to believe them?
Actually studied for those tests! Now that it's over we all know its worth jack all.
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