XBOX 360 or PS3

[Concinnity]

So, what's it going to be?

The Microsoft Xbox which has a dominating processor or Sony PS3 with the wide and fun selection of games?

I'm still leaning towards PS3.

Although, for a cool $700, you can get a reasonably well-equpied Xbox 360 - worth considering if you want to use a wireless controller for the first time.

[Pixelwarrior]

PS3 FTW!!! It's so......promising, with all those extras, including 80hrs of TV playback, DVD buring straight from the TV, etc etc.

(kinda sounded like a salesman didn't I?)

[Santa]

Pretty much dont give a damn about game consoles anymore so I dont think I'd get one. If I had to choose, I'd go for the PS3 simply because of its Blu ray capability so I could use it to play movies without having to fork out money specifically for a player because the future is unclear on the next generation of movie disc formats (blu ray or hd dvd).

If they released any more street fighter games, that would be a deciding factor also.

[Talangor]

Gotta be a Sony!
FF series contribute to my decision, though I think maybe Microsoft will be getting their grubby little hands on some of those lovely game licenses.

[NeonSprinkle]

I guess it was only a matter of time before a "system A vs system B" arguement would start.

As far as technicalities go, the PS3 is superior to the 360, but hey, is that not surprising considering the delay between releases?

The funny thing about the PS3 though is that it has a manufacturing cost upward of 900USD. Of course they won't be selling it that high cuz who in their right mind would pay that much. So we'll prolly be looking at close to 800+ AUD for a PS3. Who knows when it's going to get released too. If you have been tracking the news, then you'll have read delay after delay. Mind you all that could change next week as Sony will have a big announcement event concerning the PS3. So we'll have to wait till then to draw any serious conclusions.

As far as games go, both consoles will have hit titles. the 360 will have Oblivion (which you can get for PC) which will prolly set the benchmark for RPGs. Sony on the other hand will have the hit title of Metal Gear. The future of Final Fantasy however looks interesting. We know that FF12 will be on PS2, but FF11 is seeing a release on the 360. Whilst 11 may not be everyones favorite, the Square-Enix doors have opened to a new console. To be honest though, the Square franchise is dog's balls compared to what they used to be 10-15 years ago.

In the end though, if you're serious about all aspects of gaming then you'd end up doing what i do and purchasing both consoles rather than take sides and miss out on what the other has to offer. In the long run, the costs really aren't much of an issue if you have a small income and know how to budget.

[J-Hisaishi]

PC is the best....

[transistor]

warning: more Off topic posts

ooohh yeah pc is still the best, it can go on the internet, you can modify, it doubles up as a sauna during summer and as a heater during winter, can watch movies, etc etc etc. just kidding

as for the vote, i voted ps3, esp for the blu ray capability although there's still a region thing in place again arrgghhh i think i read it in wikipedia about that, it will have only 3 regions this time,

region 1: North America, South America, Japan and East Asia (excluding China)
region 2: Europe and Africa
reion 3: India, China, Russia, and all other countries.

oh yeah! we are considered as the rest of the world (again?)

at least the ps3 in here will be able to play the chinese movies blu ray disc hehehe if they gonna have it of course, but shame it won't play korean and japanese ones >_<

[NeonSprinkle]

I agree with PC being the best too. In fact, i even play my consoles through my pc as both my xbox and ps2 are connected to my PC monitor.

Blu-ray sounds pretty good on paper, i just hope they sort out a cost effective way to reach the market. It's more often than not that the games (media) contributing to most of the cost. 360 games are retailing at 110AUD, $10 above the RRP of PS2 and XBOX. Who knows what PS3 games will cost.

Of course one of the main roles of the PS3 is to push the blu-ray format to the general home user, and if they succeed, then media prices will drop. But according to various market predictions, it will take upward of 3 years before it reaches the price state of DVDs to us today.

[Santa]

There are a lot of people out there that are disappointed with the games out on the 360 so far. Both ps3 and xbox camps are saying how technically good their respective systems are.
Everyman and his dog seem to have forgotten that if you want a good game console, first and foremost you need good games. Only Nintendo with their revolution seem to be thinking of innovative ways to game.

I have other things to spend my money on, but if I wanted a genuinely fun game, that captured me in its involving storyline, had memorable characters, and which made me feel good and happy about playing it, my money would be on Nintendo to deliver the goods.

I couldnt give a rats ass if it could spit out 1 trillion of this and that graphics wise, or the processor had 100 cores or whatever. Give me a game that gets me playing it because I enjoy it pure and simple.

/early morning rant.

[Concinnity]

[transistor]

but with PCs you can have LAN parties, just make sure you help the host of the party with his electricity bill later

i think LAN parties are cool, thought i never had one since i'm a lazy man who can't be bothered to learn how to play FPS really well and my pc is too old for those games anyway

btw i saw a 360 demonstration in harvery norman, hhhmm not that impressive, i dun think the graphic is much better than the normal xbox or maybe because the games are just too new and they haven't use the full capability of 360?

[NeonSprinkle]

The graphics on the 360 isn't really a huge step up from the xbox. You will notice a small change to the sharpness of images on a HDTV, but owning a HDTV isnt a prerequisite to playing though. What the 360 does do is push an increased amount of information onto the screen that the previous xbox could not do.

That being said, that only seriously affects what kind of games you want to play. If youre interested in Oblivion, then youre going to see an enormous amount of detail. That's the main reason im getting a 360. Of course i could get it on PC, but getting a 360 and the game is cheaper for me than upgrading my PC to be able to play it on my PC at the level of graphics better than the 360. If you're into car games, then consoles are definitely superior to the PC, but judging from this crowd, that genre doesn't look too agreeable. But i love my racing games and Project Gotham Racing is what im picking up my 360 with.

As far as FPS goes, PC wins. Not necessarily due to the mouse + kb (cuz i love Halo) but because there are better games to pick from. Developers have been very lazy when it came to porting a PC FPS to a console as they dumb it down to ridiculous amounts.

And sports games, more fun on a console. Hard to argue with that.

But what i do like on PC? I like my MMOs (WoW, guild wars, city of villains etc..), the Maxis franchise (Simcity, The Sims etc.), other sims (Civilization et al.), flight sims and RTS. So i guess at the end of the genre war, PCs win.

[mysterious_x]

No 360 votes yet...

PS3 for me... I heard that quite a few people had problems with their 360s when it was rushed for a release before Christmas last year overseas, and they had to be taken back.

My PS2 never steered me wrong, so I'm trusting PS3.

Besides... what good is a slightly better processor when most of the games are useless?...

[transistor]

my pc is totally hopeless if i have to upgrade it to play the newest FPS, even when i played WOW, i had to use my laptop and i couldn't last too long coz it gets the laptop gets quite hot!

mysterious_X is right on the spot! it all comes down to games games and games! heck i wouldn't mind playing super nintendo games again.

anyway as of xbox360, yeah they had the blue screen of death again lol, you kinda expect them from microsoft hehehe, but only some people get those ones and i guess that is just the risk for microsoft by releasing the xbox 360 so soon

oh and i read some blog or something compared sega dreamcast Vs PS2 era, they look so similar i mean the conditions of the markets and stuff such as:
PS2 & PS3 : released later but promised a lot better graphics
Xbox360 & Dreamcast: doesn't play new generation discs (dreamcast only plays cd, while xbox360 only plays dvd)

and when bluray or hd dvd comes out, xbox 360 will offer an additional disc drive to play, no thanks i'll just wait for ps3, xbox360 will cost more if we have to buy the additional drive, kinda disappointed i am

[NeonSprinkle]

Here we go again. What im trying to avoid is this console A vs console B nonsense. All of the consoles mentioned in this thread are good, it just boils down to what the end user likes. If those consoles dont meet your needs, then you dont buy one, but you dont go to say that its a bad console, or console A is better than console B based solely on your own needs and wants.

The Sega Dreamcast was an excellent console. It wasn't marketed very well, but the machine itself and the games it offered were top notch to certain gamers. That may not be you, but that doesnt say it's a bad console.

It does boil down to games and what kind of games the consumer wants to play. Where haven't i said it? As far as PS3 goes, it is without a doubt there will be some impressive games for it given the tech specs and its history with developers, but as of now, there are very few games on a release list.

I swear most of you can not see past your own bias and fanboyish'ness. If you want to promote your own console and talk about what you want to do with it, thats great. But limit it to that. You know my stance, as i support both consoles as i will be getting both consoles.

[chocohi]

im always in for game play and fun party type games

so nintendo all the way!

[Concinnity]

Hmm.... yes. I suppose computers are the dominating systems for games. Of course, you'd have to bring over your computer for LAN parties... quite a pain if the room is packed and you need to do some l337 networking. Unless you've got wireless, then you've in heaven.


What's with the '64mb storage unit' in the xbox360? i think it serves as a memory card. although 64mb might be a lot, it sounds so pathetic. 64mb.... it's like we've taken a step forward and two back. what stages of technology are we in - nintendo?!?! pffffttt

[Santa]

I'm not up to date with what the new consoles have, but I'd imagine the hard drive (optional or not) would serve as the memory card for save games or whatever.
As far as technology and innovation wise, if you think Nintendo are lagging behind, your are greatly mistaken. Excessive technology unecessarily complicates the gaming experience

[transistor]

for example: i loved the contra in the original nintendo and super nintendo, the 3 dimensional versions are so hard to control.... i'll go for games that are easy to control but can be enjoyed really good, i still think super mario world was and still is one of the best games ever created, yeah it is really below par with today's one but even my cousin who is younger than my super nintendo also loves playing it

[NeonSprinkle]

The 64mb memory unit regarding the xbox360 is the sort of portable mem card that you insert into you controller for sharing or showing saves to a mate. If youre like me and most xbox owners, you completely avoid this unnecessary purchase.

As someone said, local saves use the onboard HDD, assuming you opted to get one, but you'd be silly not to (packaged or after-market).

Nintendo Revolution will be anything but behind. Im a bit shaky at the moment regarding how games will be played on the one handed controller (looks like a tv remote control), but im sure it will introduce a whole new variety of gaming at home.

Off on a tanget, the new Nintendo DS Lite looks awesome and sometimes makes me wish i didnt get the original DS, but hopefully there will be a trade in option somewhere. On the other hand ill be looking forward to getting a PSP maybe in like 2007 when its ridiculous price has dropped and some decent games have been released.

[NeonSprinkle]

Got some good and bad news on the PS3. The official Sony announcement that i alluded to before has just happened and here's the low-down. (This is in no way an attack on the PS3 as im a fan of all consoles)

The PS3 has been delayed to November 2006. This includes Japan. This prolly doesnt affect anyone unless you had planned on importing one soon. But that would be economically silly. So the good news is that there will be a worldwide release in November. So EVERYONE will get the PS3 and not just a local Japan release as it used to be.

They're promising there will be no delivery issues so that everyone who wants one will get one, unlike the xbox360 fiasco in the US. You might negatively rate the 360 on this aspect but from a microsoft point of view, they know that the xbox is not as popular as the PS so to play it safe they under produced. Realistically what did happen is that a LOT more people actually wanted one (which shows the growing popularity and respect for the console), but there were not enough to go around (which now negatively affects their rep). But at least MS knows they have a place in the console war.

Now back on topic. The PS3 delay is due to working out copyrighting and anti-piracy issues on the blu-ray discs.

An interesting point to bring up is that the PS3 will be using a 60GB hdd using a Linux operating system. It is official that having the HDD will be a prerequisite to playing games, but there is no promise that the PS3 will be packaged with the HDD.

And not surprisingly there will be an online network component. Thats pretty standard though. The good thing is that playing online will be free. (exclusing ISP charges).

Lastly, no official comment on PS3 pricing, so i figure it will still be pretty high.

So there you go. You can all get your PS3 in November.

[Concinnity]

Oh well that makes sense.

I think the online gaming aspect will be very cooll..... however i think if people have to start fishing out of the pockets for it, it'll probably flop. Than again, there's WOW and look at it now.

CS on Xbox - now that's intersting.....

[Pandemonium]

[JellyfisH]

wah...


is this [TF] Pandemonium, from dod:s?

[squall3031]

i personally choose ps3. so many good games are lining up!!
but i won't be getting the console until it becomes cheaper

[MangoAvocado]

Definitely the PS3. XBox? Mep...

My only gripe is that the controller, in all its boomerang splendour, looks incredibly user-UNfriendly. You'd have to break your hands and wrists in order to get your fingers around those curves!

http://www.playphoria.com/features/indepth/controller-ergonomics/images/controllers-ps3.jpg

[Santa]

They've changed the controller. I think they have anyway. The put up the pic again but noted that it was a prototype and it wasnt finalised, so I'm guessing they've listend to the gamers and are re-designing it.

[Pandemonium]

I really like the idea of the wireless capability for the controllers, because if you accidentally trip over the wires or move them significantly laterally, you could:
a) damage the console
b) damage your knee or whatever you fall on first
c) damage your controller
d) lose, due to the ten seconds that your controller has been disconnected.
So tell remember kids, wires are so outdated.

[squall3031]

how about wireless controller with rechargable battery capability? u know how those cordless phone has the phone set thing and recharges the phones battery, sony could make one like that if they want to.
the worst choice would be adding USB thing on the controller and recharge it through PC USB port or PS3 port. (yeah, much like IPOD Shuffle, gwahhaha)

[Pandemonium]